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	<title>Comments on: Agile Software Development For No Apparent Reason</title>
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		<title>By: Brad Appleton</title>
		<link>http://accurev.com/blog/2009/04/23/agile-software-development-for-no-apparent-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-535</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Appleton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lorne! You wrote &quot;I don’t really know what &#039;Swarm the Solution&#039; means, or &#039;See the Problem in the Context of the Whole&#039;, and I’m the poor dumb bastard that actually read the post.&quot;

Sorry if those were unclear. I described them later in the post (using the &quot;tell &#039;em what you&#039;re gonna tell &#039;em, tell &#039;em, then tell &#039;em what you told &#039;em&quot; approach&quot;)

Seeing the problem in the context of the whole is exactly about knowing where your supposed to be going, from a &quot;systems thinking&quot; perspective, as in seeing the forest for the trees. Look at the problem in the context of the whole business-value stream, otherwise we risk responding to &quot;local&quot; events in a way that might appear to optimize the local issue, but suboptimizes the end-goal of delivering business value (where we are going).

If we don&#039;t &quot;see the problem&quot; from the perspective of the whole systems and its goal, then you are far less likely to respond in a way that moves you in the right direction to where you need to be going.

&quot;Swarm the solution&quot; uses the term &quot;swarm&quot; in the sense of &quot;swarm behavior&quot; or &quot;swarm intelligence&quot;. It is a particular style of close collaboration based on so called &quot;self-organization&quot;

The rest of your posting that talks about self-organization and how it can be taken too far is actually the subject of one of my next blog-entries for my &quot;What is Agility?&quot; series and also touches an important difference between Agile values (as stated in the Manifesto) versus Lean Thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lorne! You wrote &#8220;I don’t really know what &#8216;Swarm the Solution&#8217; means, or &#8216;See the Problem in the Context of the Whole&#8217;, and I’m the poor dumb bastard that actually read the post.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry if those were unclear. I described them later in the post (using the &#8220;tell &#8216;em what you&#8217;re gonna tell &#8216;em, tell &#8216;em, then tell &#8216;em what you told &#8216;em&#8221; approach&#8221;)</p>
<p>Seeing the problem in the context of the whole is exactly about knowing where your supposed to be going, from a &#8220;systems thinking&#8221; perspective, as in seeing the forest for the trees. Look at the problem in the context of the whole business-value stream, otherwise we risk responding to &#8220;local&#8221; events in a way that might appear to optimize the local issue, but suboptimizes the end-goal of delivering business value (where we are going).</p>
<p>If we don&#8217;t &#8220;see the problem&#8221; from the perspective of the whole systems and its goal, then you are far less likely to respond in a way that moves you in the right direction to where you need to be going.</p>
<p>&#8220;Swarm the solution&#8221; uses the term &#8220;swarm&#8221; in the sense of &#8220;swarm behavior&#8221; or &#8220;swarm intelligence&#8221;. It is a particular style of close collaboration based on so called &#8220;self-organization&#8221;</p>
<p>The rest of your posting that talks about self-organization and how it can be taken too far is actually the subject of one of my next blog-entries for my &#8220;What is Agility?&#8221; series and also touches an important difference between Agile values (as stated in the Manifesto) versus Lean Thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Neighbors</title>
		<link>http://accurev.com/blog/2009/04/23/agile-software-development-for-no-apparent-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-534</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Neighbors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A common trap for people moving to Agile methodologies is that &quot;Self Organizing&quot; means that no management involvement.

I think that for most Agilistas Self Organizing doesn&#039;t excuse leadership from guiding/leading the team.  That is the team doesn&#039;t define what needs to be accomplished but rather how they will accomplish it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A common trap for people moving to Agile methodologies is that &#8220;Self Organizing&#8221; means that no management involvement.</p>
<p>I think that for most Agilistas Self Organizing doesn&#8217;t excuse leadership from guiding/leading the team.  That is the team doesn&#8217;t define what needs to be accomplished but rather how they will accomplish it.</p>
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